Getting sourdough to rise not spread [duplicate]

Any pointers on getting a 75% hydration wheat sour dough loaf to hold more shape and spread less?

Full details of current method:

I have a 100% wheatflour levain with a 75% hydration. It is stiffer than most I see online but grows well. It lives in the fridge all week until I make a loaf. It then gets fed with 40 g flour per 30 g of water and left to expand.

I then make a kilogram loaf using 400 g flour and 300 ml water. This is vigorously kneaded for 10 minutes by hand or a good 5 minutes by a Kenwood Chef Mixer with the dough hook.

After being left for an hour in a moist environment then folded and added to a cane banneton it is left untouched until it has expanded by varying amounts (somewhere between 50-100 % extra in volume).

It is only touched once more when the oven is preheated -it is turned out onto a silicone sheet on an oven tray and then placed on a preheated, upturned glass dish to warm the bottom of the loaf. It's then baked in an oven at 220 C for ten minutes and then 200 C for another 30 minutes.

Invariably, the loaf produced is very flat compared to the banneton with a nice crumb and flavour. The crumb is stretchy and a little chewy.

I have tried adding less water than this with similar results. This loaf was proved in fridge overnight and baked in the morning. The loaf looks similar when proved at room temperature over shorter durations.

All I want is to produce similar results except the bread holds its shape more and produce a taller. Any tips?

As my partner and I only eat one loaf per week it's a slow trial and error process varying hydration and watching for expansion.

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Best Answer

When you put the dough into the banneton do you shape the dough to develop a surface tension? I have found that makes the major difference when I make sourdough bread. Here is the site I got a lot of info on shaping from. https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/shaping-a-boule/

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As the other answer suggests, more shaping may be the key. One possibility is to add additional folds. Most sourdough recipes I've worked with have a first rise (before shaping and placing in a banneton) much longer than an hour. Try leaving it out more like 3 hours total, and do a stretch and fold at 1 and 2 hours in.

Why does my sourdough spread rather than rise?

The reason bread dough spreads out rather than rise up is likely because of weak gluten structure. A better gluten structure means a better upward rise. Gluten essentially acts as a netting that keeps the bread together, confining the gas produced during fermentation and giving it the texture we all love.

How do you stop sourdough from spreading?

Why does my sourdough spread out? This is usually because the sourdough is over fermented. If you leave your sourdough to prove for too long, the gluten structure that you've created will start to slowly break down and the bread looses it's structure.

Why does my sourdough bread spread out?

Can sourdough bread rise three times? Sourdough bread can be subjected to rise up to 5 times with little to no adverse affect on the resulting baked loaf. When a dough has overproofed in the banneton, it will be excessively weak and is not able to hold its shape well.

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As the other answer suggests, more shaping may be the key. One possibility is to add additional folds. Most sourdough recipes I've worked with have a first rise (before shaping and placing in a banneton) much longer than an hour. Try leaving it out more like 3 hours total, and do a stretch and fold at 1 and 2 hours in. Then shape tightly as a boule (better still, preshape into a ball, let rest for 10-20 minutes, then do a final shaping).

Another thought is that, based on the description of the feeding method for your sourdough, you might have more luck feeding for a day or two before you want to make bread. The bacteria and enzymes in a sourdough starter break down the structure of the starches in the flour over time. The bacterial activity slows down in the refrigerator, but the enzyme activity largely doesn't. This enzymatic breakdown is part of what produces all the nice flavors one looks for in sourdough bread, but also means that using a starter that has been sitting for a long time will lack structure. In the extreme, the buildup of enzymes can quickly break down the structure of your loaf after you add the starter.

Try pulling out your starter 2 days before you back and feeding at 12 hour intervals before you bake.

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