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When bay leaves are specified in a recipe should they be fresh or dried ? How many bay leaves per quart are required?



Best Answer

My dad uses fresh bay leaves because he has a bay plant in his yard but, in general, when a recipe calls for bay leaves, it means dried bay leaves. They're cheaper and much easier to find and - in general, considering how they're used - they provide the same results in the end.

To quote Cook's Illustrated:

Fresh vs. Dried Bay Leaves

Fresh bay leaves have become available in many supermarkets. In the test kitchen, we use fresh herbs more often than dried—bay leaves being an exception. To decide whether we should switch, we made two batches of a béchamel sauce, simmering dried bay leaves in one and fresh in the other.

Surprisingly, they finished in a dead heat. Here's why: The aromatic molecules in most herbs are more volatile than water. Herbs that grow in hot, arid environments—like bay leaves—are different: Their aromatic molecules are less volatile, retaining flavor even after water evaporates. Similarly, in long-cooked applications, we've found that rosemary, thyme, oregano, sage, and other herbs native to hot, arid environments do as well as their fresh counterparts. (And bay leaves are used only in long-cooked recipes.) Since they are cheaper and keep for months in the freezer, we'll continue to use dried bay leaves (about 10 cents per leaf), instead of springing for fresh, which cost twice as much.

So, while in many cases, fresh herbs are preferred, this doesn't hold true for bay leaves, so go with dried unless you see a recipe that specifically calls for fresh.

As to how many, I'd go with your recipe on that. What you're making and how strongly you want the bay flavor to be present will determine how many you need to use.




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How do you keep fermented pickles crisp?

How to Keep CUCUMBERS CRUNCHY DURING FERMENTATION
  • Add a Tannin-Containing Agent to Your Pickling Jars. Black tea leaves, oak leaves, grape leaves, or horseradish leaves all work well. ...
  • Ferment at the Coolest Temperature You Can. ...
  • Try Small Whole Cucumbers First. ...
  • Remove the Blossom End. ...
  • Puncture the Skin.


  • Do bay leaves make pickles crunchy?

    Add tannins to your brine Add a fresh grape leaf, oak leaves, cherry leaves, horseradish leaves, a tea bag, loose leaf tea, green banana leaf, or bay leaves to your brine. The tannins prevent the cell walls from breaking down, leaving a crunchy pickle.

    What to use to make pickles crisp?

    Add tannins. Include a couple grape leaves, horseradish leaves, oak leaves or black tea leaves in each jar. The natural tannins found in these leaves help homemade pickles stay crisp.

    What does bay leaf add to pickles?

    * Bay Leaves - Add 2-4 bay leaves per quart to add flavor and tannins to your pickles! A double whammy. * Blackberry or Raspberry Leaves - If you're lucky enough to have a blackberry or raspberry bush, try using the leaves in your pickles. They're even full edible when young and tender.



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