Sous vide effectiveness without using a vacuum sealer? [duplicate]
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I frequently use the water displacement method to seal ziploc freezer bags when I sous vide. I can get maybe 99% of the air out, but technically the bag is not under vacuum. If I clip the top of the bag to the side of my container, any air pockets that emerge collects at the top, and the meat is entirely in contact with the bag and immersion bath. Alternatively, if I seal the bag with a marinade, there are no pockets of air between the meat and the immersion bath.
I can't imagine that the temperature transfer can be any more effective when vacuum sealed. So why does a site like SeriousEats still suggest that a vacuum sealer is needed for best results with longer cooking times?
In the context of food storage in plastic bags, SeriousEats claims, "excess air causes oxidation that can develop into off flavors or promote spoilage." But I never sous vide for the freezer, it gets served when done.
There was a comment that asked if food contamination might occur for cooking times longer than 48 hours, but it was never answered.
What is the science behind this statement? How much residual air is "too much"?
If the bag remains submerged, does not leak, and the food in full contact with the water bath, is that enough to duplicate the benefits of a true vacuum seal?
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Also, what is the scientific impact of trapping small amounts of residual air in a pocket above the water bath? This assumes that there is still a very strong thermal coupling between the water bath and sous vide item.
In the photo below, you can see at least a 2inch gap between the air pockets above water level and the actual short ribs. From a heat transfer perspective, I can't imagine that a vacuum sealed bag can perform significantly better—certainly not relative to a 48hr cook time. Is there a possibility of bacterial contamination?
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The main problem I've found is that air pockets can cause the bag to float, causing uneven heating. If your bag sinks, or if you have something to make it sink, it should be fine.
(Note: I find the water displacement method to be kind of a pain and not really effective. I use a cheapo manual vacuum pump, which I got for about ten bucks. It's very slightly more effective, and cheap.)
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Can you sous vide without vacuum sealer?
\u201cSous vide\u201d is French for \u201cunder vacuum,\u201d but it's a very confusing name. In fact, you do not need a pricey vacuum sealer\u2014or even an inexpensive countertop one\u2014to successfully cook food at a low temperature in a water bath. To get started with sous vide, regular old ziplock-style bags will do just fine.How important is vacuum sealing to sous vide?
A vacuum seal helps preserve moisture in food during cooking. When you cook food in an oven or fry it, natural moisture often gets lost, resulting in chewy and dry food. With vacuum sealed sous vide bags, all the juices stay inside it. This also helps to prevent loss of flavor.What can I use instead of a vacuum sealer?
A simple and efficient vacuum sealer. While the Anova Precision Vacuum Sealer doesn't have all the bells and whistles of more expensive models, it does what's necessary, and it does it well. I love that it's small enough to store easily, and the 5-year warranty is a plus.Sous Vide without vacuum sealer.
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The dedicated vacuum sealer makes better seams than the ZipLoc Freezer bag edges. For long duration cooking, this is a big advantage. I have to double-bag when I am doing an extended cook at a higher temp. And working out air pockets is twice as painful with two bags and hot water!
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