Does dead yeast result in a stickier dough?
I'm trying to troubleshoot my pizza dough. I've made it twice and both times it was too sticky to knead.
The first time I figured that I killed the yeast (the package said don't go above 140°F and I took the water off the stove when the thermometer read 140°F), so the second time I used water that was 128°F, reading the thermometer right before adding the yeast and sugar. The yeast bubbled a bit but I'm not sure if it was as frothy as it's supposed to be.
The recipe I'm using is to mix 1 package of yeast with 1¾ cups of warm water and ½ tsp sugar, then add to 4 cups pastry flour and ½ tsp salt.
I've made bread before and this dough is nothing like what I'm used to. Flouring the counter top and wetting my hands does nothing to prevent the dough from sludging. I also tried mixing it with a wooden spoon for a few minutes, hoping it would thicken. Would dead yeast cause the stickiness, or am I just preparing it wrong?
Best Answer
No, the dead yeast (if it was dead at all) has nothing to do with the stickiness.
Your dough has 87.5% hydration, which is unusually high. It also uses, for some unclear reason, pastry flour, so it will behave like much higher hydration.
The stickiness is absolutely to be expected with this recipe. If you have never done high hydration doughs, maybe you want to start in a more gradual way, maybe something like 80% with bread or at least AP flour, and and when you are OK with this go on to work with wetter recipes. Also see What can I do to keep high hydration dough from sticking to my hands? for how to become a bit more comfortable working with sticky dough.
If you don't know how to arrive at the number: 1.75 cups of water is 420 g 4 cups of flour is 480 g 420 is 87.5% of 480, so your hydration is 87.5%
You can repeat the calculation for other bread recipes.
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Quick Answer about "Does dead yeast result in a stickier dough?"
No, the dead yeast (if it was dead at all) has nothing to do with the stickiness. Your dough has 87.5% hydration, which is unusually high. It also uses, for some unclear reason, pastry flour, so it will behave like much higher hydration.Why is my dough getting stickier?
Why is my dough so sticky? Your dough can become sticky when you add too much water or the flour isn't suitable for the type of dough you are making. Over proofing or fermenting the dough can also result in the gluten structure weakening causing sticky dough.Will dead yeast rise dough?
If the yeast rises and bubbles, it's good to use. If nothing happens, you'll need to go buy new yeast or try again. Your yeast can be dead either because it's old and has just died with time, or if you have added it to water that's too hot, which has killed it.Does yeast make dough sticky?
Active dry yeast needs to be rehydrated with warm water to activate it correctly and cause it to bloom. If you use cold water to do this, then the gluten-containing structure in the yeast (the glutathione) can seep out of the yeast cells. This can cause the dough to become sticky as a result.Does dead yeast still work?
If your yeast is \u201cdead\u201d or \u201cinactive\u201d then you will need to get new yeast\u2014there is no way to revive it or liven it up again once it goes bad. Dry yeast can last up to 12 months, but there is no guarantee. We recommend storing it in the refrigerator, especially after it is opened.How to Fix Dough That Won't Rise
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Answer 2
I make a lot of pizza dough. One thing I’ve learned is to judge the flour based on how the dough feels and looks more than the measured quantity. If it starts off sticky, you will need to add flour so you can knead the dough properly. High protein flour, like bread flour will help as well. I typically add extra gluten (1 Tablespoon per crust) to increase the protein.
As far as the yeast goes, unless you are using “active dry yeast” the yeast can be added with the dry ingredients. For active dry, proof it with warm tap water. Do not use your stove to heat the water. The yeast health will not affect the dough until after you let the dough rise. If it fails to rise, then you know you killed the yeast.
Answer 3
For our pizza dough I use 1290 gram of water for 2000 gram of zero zero flour. We avoid cups as the slightest change can make the mix hard to handle. The mixer is run at low speed for ten minutes. Our air temperature is 30c and humidity 85%. 5 gram of water extra or less cannot be allowed. Maybe we are extreme but results are consistent. Dough temperature after mix is between 22 and 25c.
Answer 4
In my (limited) experience, doughs with high hydration (anything over 72%ish hydration and this one is solidly over that) are frequently used in no-knead recipes. The dough is too wet for a machine to handle. And instead of kneading it with your hands you let time and the water do a lot of the work, and instead of 'kneading' it you do periodic 'folding' of the dough (with wet hands to prevent sticking) in order to promote the gluten structure.
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